Ok yeah i know..i posting a civic

[skidmarx]

I will never understand why guys in D/ca even waste time and money buying a Honda. For the same money there are so many better and faster cars that can be purchased.

Smokey......sorry bro, but this ain't America. We actually do have a choice.

Motion for one "reliability". honda is without a doubt one of the most reliable cars in da..that's why there are so man...value for money. what cars have gotten more awards than honda in most categories. What about personal choice
sometimes speed is not all bro....speed kills too. we are limited on da roads when it comes to speed.
that statement is real bull-shit.
and finally....if you have a big budget you can take the slow honda build it and put licks on man like you with your fast car

FAIR! all about choice. and personally i find the idea of taking something slow and make it fast very exciting.

[motion sickness]

Well like I said, its all about choice........I prefer to buy something fast and make it faster....my choice papa.

As to reliability.....Toyotas are just as reliable or even more reliable than Hondas.....Before you even say anything......just look at the news in the Middle East. Have you noticed what cars those boys rockin.....camerys and corollas etc.

As for awards....Toyota and Nissan have also won there fair share.

Kobi.......For future reference, I was talking on a performance level.

[scientist]

Toyota and Nissan has won far more awards than honda

[Preppy]

yeah, its all about his\her choice, can't be mad at that. you can't compare apples and oranges. Kobi likes em Ho's, Starboy liked em Toy's.

[djphattraxx]

I will never understand why guys in D/ca even waste time and money buying a Honda. For the same money there are so many better and faster cars that can be purchased.

Smokey......sorry bro, but this ain't America. We actually do have a choice.

Motion for one "reliability". honda is without a doubt one of the most reliable cars in da..that's why there are so man...value for money. what cars have gotten more awards than honda in most categories. What about personal choice
sometimes speed is not all bro....speed kills too. we are limited on da roads when it comes to speed.
that statement is real bull-shit.
and finally....if you have a big budget you can take the slow honda build it and put licks on man like you with your fast car

the last time an argument came out about budget cost for speed be tween 2 types of cars ADMIN threaten to close the thread lol let NOT go back in to that again pls!

[djphattraxx]

I will never understand why guys in D/ca even waste time and money buying a Honda. For the same money there are so many better and faster cars that can be purchased.

Smokey......sorry bro, but this ain't America. We actually do have a choice.

Motion for one "reliability". honda is without a doubt one of the most reliable cars in da..that's why there are so man...value for money. what cars have gotten more awards than honda in most categories. What about personal choice
sometimes speed is not all bro....speed kills too. we are limited on da roads when it comes to speed.
that statement is real bull-shit.
and finally....if you have a big budget you can take the slow honda build it and put licks on man like you with your fast car

FAIR! all about choice. and personally i find the idea of taking something slow and make it fast very exciting.

well i like taking something FAST and makin' it FASTER lol

[kobi]

I will never understand why guys in D/ca even waste time and money buying a Honda. For the same money there are so many better and faster cars that can be purchased.

Smokey......sorry bro, but this ain't America. We actually do have a choice.

Motion for one "reliability". honda is without a doubt one of the most reliable cars in da..that's why there are so man...value for money. what cars have gotten more awards than honda in most categories. What about personal choice
sometimes speed is not all bro....speed kills too. we are limited on da roads when it comes to speed.
that statement is real bull-shit.
and finally....if you have a big budget you can take the slow honda build it and put licks on man like you with your fast car

FAIR! all about choice. and personally i find the idea of taking something slow and make it fast very exciting.

For once skid you make perfect sense. i couldn't agree with you more
I hope you didn't har someone say that

[kobi]

Toyota and Nissan has won far more awards than honda

Really....ok sci lets see 2006 stats and what the Consumer Reports had to say..
http://www.smartmoney.com/consumer/inde ... y=20060301

is my eyes seeing right.. honda have 5 cars in the top 10..plus 1,2,and 3 on the list too. talk about bias....them comsumers really bias abt honda eh....
sci why don't you post the 2007 consumer report?

[kobi]

For those who don't care to click links and see the stats here's what the Consumer Reports ALSO said...tell me where you see a honda there...high or low???? and do you see any hondas in the second list that say MOST PROBLEMATIC

How Reliable Is Your Car?
Consumer Reports' Least Problematic 1998-2005 Models
The owners of these cars had the least problems during the past one to eight years.
Model Year Make and Model Percent of Owners
Reporting Problems
in 2006
2005 Toyota Prius
Honda Civic Hybrid 4%
2004 Mazda MX-5 Miata 5%
2003 Toyota Highlander (V6) 9%
2002 Honda S2000
Toyota Echo 11%
2001 Toyota Echo 13%
2000 Toyota Tacoma (4-cyl)
Lexus LS400 17%
1999 Toyota Tacoma (4-cyl)
Lexus LS400 20%
1998 Toyota Tacoma (4-cyl)
Infiniti Q45 24%

Consumer Reports' Most Problematic 1998-2005 Models
The owners of these cars had to take their vehicles to the repair shop the most during the past one to eight years.
Model Year Make and Model Percent of Owners
Reporting Problems
in 2006
2005 Infiniti QX56 40
2004 Infiniti QX56 67
2003 Volkswagen New Beetle Convertible
Land Rover Range Rover 56
2002 Land Rover Freelander 61
2001 Volkswagen Jetta (Sedan 62
2000 1.8T) 66
1999 Pontiac Bonneville 77
1998 Volkswagen Jetta (V6) 72
Consumer Action Archive

[scientist]

edmunds.com is a much better comparison.

There is a reason why the toyota Camry is the best selling automobile period. and TOYOTA is ontop.

Also remember that the time the article is published in relation to the car release date plays an important role.

Just take a look at the same site.

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/consumer ... index.html

http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/mostwant ... index.html

One has the Tundra for fullsized, another has the F-150
but thats editors vs consumers

The real benchmark has always been the JD power and Associates

Nissan has won JD Power awards for their engines. the 350 has won automobile of the year also and has a total of 41 awards.

"Winning a Ward's 10 Best Engines award for the sixth consecutive year proves the depth of Nissan's engine development expertise," Visnic said. "We believe the VQ 3L V-6 is approaching the sort of 'legendary' status afforded to a select group of timeless engine designs."

http://www.nissan-global.com/GCC/Japan/ ... 16_1e.html


As of this year
BEST NEW ENGINE

Results points
1. Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI (Golf) 250

2. Toyota 3.5-litre V6 Hybrid (GS450h) 196

3. Chevrolet 7-litre V8 (Corvette Z06) 123

4. Mercedes-AMG 6.2-litre (CLK, ML) 117

5. Porsche 3.4-litre flat six (Cayman) 102

6. Honda 1.8-litre (Civic) 81



Best Fuel Economy
1. Toyota Hybrid 1.5-litre (Prius) 196
2. Honda Hybrid 1.3-litre IMA (Civic) 127
3. Fiat-GM Diesel 1.3-litre (Panda, Grande Punto, IDEA, Doblo, Lancia Ypsilon, Opel/Vauxhall Agila, Corsa Astra, Meriva, Tigra, Combo, Suzuki New Ingis) 111
4. Honda 3-litre V6 Hybrid (Accord) 74
5. Toyota 3.5-litre V6 Hybrid (GS450h) 54
6. Renault/Nissan Diesel 2-litre (Mégane, Laguna) 49

Best Performance Engine
1. BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6) 342

2. Ferrari 4.3-litre V8 (F430) 160

3. Mercedes-AMG 6-litre bi-Turbo (SL65, CL65, Maybach) 130

4. Chevrolet 7-litre V8 (Corvette ZO6) 103

5. Porsche 3.8-litre (911) 54

6. BMW 3.2-litre (M3, Z4 M) 52


Get the rest here

http://www.ukintpress.com/engineoftheye ... ies04.html