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Lesson learnt
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:31 am
by Starboy_X
So I've been reflecting on my mishap and I have realised that I will be having a problem. Through hard corners I don't anticipate it but through the gentle bends is where I forsee it happening. My natural in these gentle bends is to go in really hard and ease up as the car starts to slip which works fine in RWD, I mean I was thinking about some of the previous corners and I basically accelerated right through the hard corners and never really got off the gas, don't get me wrong I was not floor board or anything but I was accelerating right through. I think that was the first "high speed" corner and i had kind of eased off gas. Anyway can anyone give some CONSTRUCTIVE advice as to how to deal with this because I will basically need to reprogram my brain on how to drive and I'm not sure how to do it.
Re: Lesson learnt
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:52 am
by damien
I think the best way is to let the car reprogram you. Drive alone, so you can focus on what YOUR car does and not what anyone else is doing around you. Learn it inside and out, until you can sense the front wheels taking over grip before the diffrential even starts to lock. I think six months of constant driving like this is minimum, but everyone has their own learning curve.
Thank you and good luck.
Re: Lesson learnt
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:47 am
by Lil Stig
hmm well i jus think you should give it more time dont rush it my boy. to you young Skyliner the force will come, have patience.
![driver [drive]](./images/smilies/icon_driving.gif)
you should jus try takin the corners how u would if u were casually(slowly) driving and learn the feel.
Re: Lesson learnt
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:30 am
by TheGoodGuy
Great thread.. Subscribed
Re: Lesson learnt
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:49 am
by Starboy_X
damien wrote:I think the best way is to let the car reprogram you. Drive alone, so you can focus on what YOUR car does and not what anyone else is doing around you. Learn it inside and out, until you can sense the front wheels taking over grip before the diffrential even starts to lock. I think six months of constant driving like this is minimum, but everyone has their own learning curve.
Thank you and good luck.
That makes sense except that I was completely focused on me. Its like the instinct of releasing took over, I never really THOUGHT "what should I do?" I've replayed it quite a few times in my head and whether I was alone or with people I just don't see any other outcome. I was saying to a couple people that whereas other people are surprised that i got introduced to a ditch, I am not (well ditch or cliff or whatever). Actually I think the fact that was WITH people actually delayed that particular outcome. I gave a couple different people rides on Friday night and I was holding back because I was not alone and on Sunday i was being kept in check for a while. This actually happened because I was trying to learn how the car reacts. I didn't feel that I was going fast persay when the incident occurred. I mean I obviously wasn't slow but in retrospect and based on impartial outsiders' views I have to concede that maybe I was much faster than I thought (felt I was). Right now what I am doing is every night when going to sleep telling myself "Accelerate to correct....accelerate to correct". I am definitely going to take the advice of feeling when the front takes grip, I realise that I am completely aware of when the rear of ANY car is getting loose, because the car didn't actually start sliding, in my opinion, until i got off the gas when i thought it was just about to break loose, again instinct took over. This is really going to take some learning/getting used to
Lil Stig wrote:hmm well i jus think you should give it more time dont rush it my boy. to you young Skyliner the force will come, have patience.
![driver [drive]](./images/smilies/icon_driving.gif)
you should jus try takin the corners how u would if u were casually(slowly) driving and learn the feel.
Casual for me is fast for many people or so i've been told

Re: Lesson learnt
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:42 pm
by Evo-Man
Bro just take your time.
What allways works is to get on a sandy area and get a feel of how the car reacts, also on wet road too.
All in time, call me in one year when you are ready.
![hypocrite [hypocrite]](./images/smilies/hypocrite.gif)
Re: Lesson learnt
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:55 pm
by Preppy
well that sucks. get some suspension upgrades? or an evo?
Re: Lesson learnt
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:28 pm
by TROJAN - X
bro
my take on this is as such - the engine is in the front and the car is AWD with most of the torque to the rear.
the weight of the car is dispersed making the rear lighter than the front,
thus in corners the front tyres with there limited grip and pull wud allow the rear opposite tyre to the corner you are turning into to lift into the air
(( eg - turning a right corner, the weight of the front wud be on the outside left front tyre - thus making the rear right tyre to tread lightly on the road or maybe even end up in the air.))
The correction to this shud be to upgrade the suspension to minimize roll or use the throttle to assist in steering the car, in other words stabbing the throttle to allow the rear of the car to shift slightly while bending.
my 5 cents on the matter
Re: Lesson learnt
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:26 pm
by motion sickness
Congrats sir......the first thing you have to do to solve a problem is to admit you have one. Most of us here on the forum would never have the balls to says I messed up or what should I do. Despite the outcome I still have respect for your efforts.
To be honest, the solution is all within you. No one here can give you any real advice about your car unless they have, had or have driven your car exstensively. The fact is its not a Soarer, 300zx, supra, evo, vr-4 etc. Its a GTR and its the first in DA. The only person that I believe can come also to accurate advice would be Nascar, because the mechanics of his car would be the closest.
Don't let this mishap detour you. Good luck!
PS Just go into the corner easy and at mid corner hammer it coming out...see how it grips.
Re: Lesson learnt
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:56 pm
by Starboy_X
I don't think suspension upgrades would have helped me, from talking to a GTR owner in St. Lucia what he said I had to do was keep on the throttle and I would have been fine. I will test out that theory as soon as possible.