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smokeyonline wrote:

skidmarx wrote: well i meant to compare the non vtec cars like the vigor of 93 i think to them vtec cars of the same year. like the teg and the civic. and i experienced the vigor and the legend tearing them apart. thats where my comment come from. not that the vtec aint working. just that the way people express their faith in vtec gives me the impression that these other non vtec hondas arent half as worthy.

Aren't you comparing 6cyl cars to 4cyl cars? Geez I wonder which would win...........................

smokey its a 5cylinder 2500cc. they really handle lovely for FF cars. havent driven the newer ones though.

Based just off engine performance...a Vigor's engine is a slouch in comparison to honda's flagship vtec engines


Non Vtec Engines

1990
HONDA VIGOR CB5
Engine: G20A (1996 cc, I-5, 160 hp)
Layout: Front / Front

1992
HONDA VIGOR CC2
Engine: G25A (2451 cc, I-5, 190 hp)
Layout: Front / Front
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1993
HONDA LEGEND KA8
Engine: C32A (3206 cc, V6, 215-235 hp)
Layout: Front / Front

1996
HONDA LEGEND KA9
Engine: C35A (3473 cc, V6, 215 hp)
Layout: Front / Front


Vtec
1990
HONDA NSX NA1
Engine: C30A (2977 cc, V6, 265-280 hp)
Layout: Middle / Rear

1990
HONDA INTEGRA DA6
Engine: B16A (1600 cc, I-4, 150-160 hp)
Layout: Front / Front

1994
HONDA INTEGRA DC2
Engine: B18C (1800 cc, I-4, 170-200 hp)
Layout: Front / Front


Jus 3 examples....if u notice...the engines in the 160power range has 400cc less displacement than the Vigor engines and one cylinder less. And the Same Family of engines With vtec 25-65 Hp more on less displacement

Cars like vigor so wat if its civic and teg big brother.....big brother in wat....SIZE.nothing else so get your stats good skid. i woulda like to see u take a vigo and follow me around da.

Them vigor moving I whooped one with my starlet back in the day, oh that felt nice.. from... Taru to Roseau Ahhhhhhhhhh. I think the B16 would have done a better job. The vigor needed that extra displacement to provide the necessary Ummmph to haul its weight around.

Oh BTW this didn't come with a purple thong when I bought it. They must have forgotten to add it to my accessory package.

I guess they did forget to add it. Look under the seat again!
Yeah.....well try handling a 1200++ of 2j power with loads of torque to match.
900whp is usable on the street for a honda never said anything about racing on the track bro. And whats the big deal if this car is street legal I know of an 8 sec Supra that has a shoot under the license plate. If you don't believe me ask DGLODE about Big Daddy.

Also if your honda was so great why did you change manufacturers. I guess in life everyone makes mistakes and you admitted yours so moved on to a much better car.

The fact of the matter is with money you can mod any car to the max. What was the Supra packing away? Did it just have an exhaust or was it built? Could the guy handle the car? Not because its a Supra that means its fast. I've seen a Supra run 16s and it was a 6sp tt.

PS WE STILL DON'T RIDE HOs

Motion Sickness wrote: Also if your honda was so great why did you change manufacturers. I guess in life everyone makes mistakes and you admitted yours so moved on to a much better car.

I don't think I would call my civic a mistake. It was just as eyecatching as my Evo and I had a turbo 1.8L vtec motor sitting in my garage that I sold separately from the car. You're right, I did move onto a better car but that's the way things are with age. The newer cars are supposed to be better and I'm sure my next car will be better than the Evo. So once again what's your point?

You keep going on and on about Honda being a "girls" car and I don't get it. Up here in the states, it's a fact that only bitches drive Rav-4's but you don't here anybody putting them down when you guys big them up.

Oh BTW that Supra ran a 9.665 at the track. I think it had more than just an exhaust .

I honestly don't care what you did with your Honda. Yes, no one puts down Ravs because they are what they say they are....mini SUVs.

My point: Hondas are not sports cars they are econo/family cars. They are, again, over rated plan and simple.

A Nissan Patrol with the TB48 isn't a sports car, but gone are the days of sports cars and none sports car... in this era it is bring what you got, the more unauthodox the better. You got a honda 1.3,1.5.. you drop a turbo on it and supporting mods and you let those guys who paid and arm or leg regret it.

Turbo- the replacement for displacement

KA24DET70 wrote: A Nissan Patrol with the TB48 isn't a sports car, but gone are the days of sports cars and none sports car... in this era it is bring what you got, the more unauthodox the better. You got a honda 1.3,1.5.. you drop a turbo on it and supporting mods and you let those guys who paid and arm or leg regret it. Turbo- the replacement for displacement

I don't agree with your sumation. Because what you are saying is you prefer a modded out honda than say a Porsche 911 or Ferrari, I'm sorry your honda can pass me everyday and twice on Sundays I'd still choose the Porsche or Ferrari. I guess I'm into balance as in something that goes fast yet can be used as a more or less regular driver. I guess I am not into all out and out racing as some of you guys.