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KA-T70 wrote: I am sure as heck not doing that! It looks ugly one, two it looks unsafe, 3 unless you go to a hunry tire shop owner, you won't get those mounted. I believe the reason for doing so is to reduce the surface area so the cars have lesss traction so they're easier to brake loose in a drift.

damien wrote: Phatrax you disappointing me now. If you have the same size tire and add a wider rim to it you not keeping the same size contact patch on the road PLUS stiffening the sidewall???? And about the fender comment...the S13 already has wide body fenders on it. The purpose of that project is uniqueness AND performance - its obvious.

And yes it does look unsafe to have (which is why i was asking if and how the tires are secured on the rim like that) but then again, what about drifting IS inherently safe on a whole? It's like tongue piercing - I not gonna stick metal in my tongue, but for those that have 200 rings all over them already, what's the problem.

Scientist wrote: I can and have been wrong and have no probs admitting it.
But to sit and argue about technicalities of something is jus something i am not willing to spend my time doing at this time.

Define proper tire size for the chosen rim?
He could have gone with many other tires, but the fact that tire manufacturers make some of their R compound tires for these kind of applications, and there is a certain amount of math involved in selecting how wide and how tall of a sidewall to choose to get the final desired overall diameter and sidewall strength.

I was willing to argue with you over the less grip statement you made. Considering there are different attributes that promote different types of grip from a tire.
There is Lateral and longitudinal grip. An attribute for lateral grip is Stiff sidewalls to maintain a good contact Patch. Longitudinal grip is better with soft sidewalls and wide tires...just look at deflated slicks....If u notice the sidewall deforms a bit under hard acceleration. Ever wondered why drag tires aren't that usefull in 35-45 series tires?

KA-T70 wrote: Once drifting hit the u.s it went to crap... as with most other foreign sports

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djphattraxx wrote:

damien wrote: Phatrax you disappointing me now. If you have the same size tire and add a wider rim to it you not keeping the same size contact patch on the road PLUS stiffening the sidewall???? And about the fender comment...the S13 already has wide body fenders on it. The purpose of that project is uniqueness AND performance - its obvious.

And yes it does look unsafe to have (which is why i was asking if and how the tires are secured on the rim like that) but then again, what about drifting IS inherently safe on a whole? It's like tongue piercing - I not gonna stick metal in my tongue, but for those that have 200 rings all over them already, what's the problem.

DIG D',, in your 2nd part i agree with you .... in your 1st part! that is not what i was saying!.... all i was saying was Damian, drift car or not: wide fenders or not; if you put the correct tire size on the wide rims on the s13 regardless of height 25 30 35 40 and so on it would not go under the fender cause the rim it self is wider than the out side edge of the fender front and back that all i was saying even in the other pics it clearly shows that and to put a 20 mm spacer making it even worse!! im sure its the fender thats wearing out the side wall U can barely see the name of the tire!! but the tire tread is intact