
Project Orange Juice
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Project Orange Juice
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"Its not the size of the engine that matters... its how much shit you can bolt to it....."


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Re: Project Orange Juice
LOL @ Above Comment.
Ok... Lets start off. I usually start my projects with a reading section, I feel it lays out what to expect from the project... I am a numbers and spreadsheet kinda guy... I don't really like to wing it. For the guys who like to read... awesome.. for the guys who like the visuals your gonna have to wait a lil bit.
Objective: Naturally aspirated (yes I said it)... (It is very tempting to go forced induction on an engine that has forged connecting rods and forged crankshaft from the factory. I know I know... but I can't afford it right now, draw backs of starting with a brand new car.. you dont have much mod money.. I am chasing rabbits back to the objective now). Due to a limited budget the initial setup on the project will be a modest well handling, N/a V8, 6 speed manual transmission, torsen rear, big brembo breaks kinda car (all of which I just stated was optioned from the factory on my car..also Recaro seats). Final power goals in Project Level 1 is a moddest 420 RWHP. Project Level 2 (couple years from now) would be to the tune of 700 RWHP.
Execution: I have divided the Project Level 1 into stages. I am hoping for a time frame to completetion of 2.5 yrs (Hopefully sooner). But, enough reading... let me start with the details.
First order of business is address the suspension and wheel hop. The car is currently the best handling car I have ever own. (its also the first car I have owned that I didnt have to fix it to get it running before I could drive it), But... I can make it better. During burn outs there is reported wheel hop... I have felt it myself
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In an effort to minimize double spending, I have divided suspension mods in 2 stages. Stage 1 - is everymod that requires wheel alignment. I hope to do all of them at once and do a single wheel alignment at the shop.
Stage 1 - Suspension
BMR Toe Links $209.95
Steeda Drop Springs $295.00
Mustang IRS Subframe Alignment Kit $40.00
Bump Steer kit $194.00
camber plates $247.00
Total $985.95
Stage 2 requires no alignment and will tie in the suspension and chasis.
Stage 2 - Suspension
Subfram Bushing support $145.00
Front G track Bracing $165.00
Rear IRS Subframe Support Braces $195.00
Sway Bars $390.00
Total $895.00
That Essentially completes Suspension for a daily driven street car. Some things may be added as the need arise. I also have a detailed outline for the drive train, engine tuning, and lastly forced induction. I have not concluded a 100% on these items yet so I will share at a later date. However let me share some pictures to allow you all to better relate to the mods listed above.
Fact Sheet (its a heavy girl 3700lbs)

The Mustang IRS Suspension.
Rear



Front

I am mostly intereted in the rear suspension. The fron't seem to be doing well based on the various reviews and resources that I have read. The idea is not to abuse my limited mod money. No mod money abuse. lol
P.S. Please excuse spelling mistakes and gramatical ones as well.![ohhh [oh]](./images/smilies/blink.gif)
Ok... Lets start off. I usually start my projects with a reading section, I feel it lays out what to expect from the project... I am a numbers and spreadsheet kinda guy... I don't really like to wing it. For the guys who like to read... awesome.. for the guys who like the visuals your gonna have to wait a lil bit.
Objective: Naturally aspirated (yes I said it)... (It is very tempting to go forced induction on an engine that has forged connecting rods and forged crankshaft from the factory. I know I know... but I can't afford it right now, draw backs of starting with a brand new car.. you dont have much mod money.. I am chasing rabbits back to the objective now). Due to a limited budget the initial setup on the project will be a modest well handling, N/a V8, 6 speed manual transmission, torsen rear, big brembo breaks kinda car (all of which I just stated was optioned from the factory on my car..also Recaro seats). Final power goals in Project Level 1 is a moddest 420 RWHP. Project Level 2 (couple years from now) would be to the tune of 700 RWHP.
Execution: I have divided the Project Level 1 into stages. I am hoping for a time frame to completetion of 2.5 yrs (Hopefully sooner). But, enough reading... let me start with the details.
First order of business is address the suspension and wheel hop. The car is currently the best handling car I have ever own. (its also the first car I have owned that I didnt have to fix it to get it running before I could drive it), But... I can make it better. During burn outs there is reported wheel hop... I have felt it myself
In an effort to minimize double spending, I have divided suspension mods in 2 stages. Stage 1 - is everymod that requires wheel alignment. I hope to do all of them at once and do a single wheel alignment at the shop.
Stage 1 - Suspension
BMR Toe Links $209.95
Steeda Drop Springs $295.00
Mustang IRS Subframe Alignment Kit $40.00
Bump Steer kit $194.00
camber plates $247.00
Total $985.95
Stage 2 requires no alignment and will tie in the suspension and chasis.
Stage 2 - Suspension
Subfram Bushing support $145.00
Front G track Bracing $165.00
Rear IRS Subframe Support Braces $195.00
Sway Bars $390.00
Total $895.00
That Essentially completes Suspension for a daily driven street car. Some things may be added as the need arise. I also have a detailed outline for the drive train, engine tuning, and lastly forced induction. I have not concluded a 100% on these items yet so I will share at a later date. However let me share some pictures to allow you all to better relate to the mods listed above.
Fact Sheet (its a heavy girl 3700lbs)

The Mustang IRS Suspension.
Rear



Front

I am mostly intereted in the rear suspension. The fron't seem to be doing well based on the various reviews and resources that I have read. The idea is not to abuse my limited mod money. No mod money abuse. lol
P.S. Please excuse spelling mistakes and gramatical ones as well.
"Its not the size of the engine that matters... its how much shit you can bolt to it....."


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Re: Project Orange Juice
Not to overwhelm with details here... here are some of the components I have listed in stage 1 and 2. I also attached some video's explaining some if your super interested. lol
Adjustable Toe Links:
basically helps to get back your camber/alignment back incheck after a drop.

Factory Vs. Aftermarket

Vertical Links or Integral Links... lol I forgot to include this in stage 2 (more cost). Basically beef up the suspension.

EDIT... I will edit/complete this post with more detail later. I got to go now
Adjustable Toe Links:
basically helps to get back your camber/alignment back incheck after a drop.

Factory Vs. Aftermarket

Vertical Links or Integral Links... lol I forgot to include this in stage 2 (more cost). Basically beef up the suspension.

EDIT... I will edit/complete this post with more detail later. I got to go now
"Its not the size of the engine that matters... its how much shit you can bolt to it....."


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Re: Project Orange Juice
A new 5.0 on island? Please let it be so.
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Re: Project Orange Juice
Nope, He's in texas. We only have 2 generations back 5.0 as the newest on island. Its been uglified
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Re: Project Orange Juice
I havent given that much thought as yet. A few times I had to break hard in a pinch... it works really well. As far as the car presently being a DD and only seeing highway duty its on the back burner for now till I get into autocross etc.scientist wrote:Decided on your pad and fluid setup yet?
I have actually changed my approach. Newer and newer suspension parts keep coming out (granted its a new platform)... So I will approach mods from a fun perspective until the market has had its fair share of reviews and forum discussion on the options available.
With that said ... My catback exhuast (fun mod/want for sound = fun perspective) should be here on monday. Its the one in the video. Forward to 6 minutes to hear the sound clips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq194Aa65CY
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Re: Project Orange Juice
It should feel great suspension wise, its the first car you owned with brand new suspension and while I am not yet a mustang fan, understood they no longer only straight line cars. Cheers on the purchase you now need a go pro and Preppy to visit. LolTheGoodGuy wrote:LOL @ Above Comment.
First order of business is address the suspension and wheel hop. The car is currently the best handling car I have ever own. (its also the first car I have owned that I didnt have to fix it to get it running before I could drive it), But... I can make it better. During burn outs there is reported wheel hop... I have felt it myself.
P.S. Please excuse spelling mistakes and gramatical ones as well.
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Re: Project Orange Juice
Thanks. It does feel good, no squicks or unknown rattles. It handles pretty solid. The spring rate is pretty stiff from factory.. a lil bouncy. I am not sure if its linear or progressive.. will have to look at them, cant recal the spring rates either.Sikes wrote:It should feel great suspension wise, its the first car you owned with brand new suspension and while I am not yet a mustang fan, understood they no longer only straight line cars. Cheers on the purchase you now need a go pro and Preppy to visit. LolTheGoodGuy wrote:LOL @ Above Comment.
First order of business is address the suspension and wheel hop. The car is currently the best handling car I have ever own. (its also the first car I have owned that I didnt have to fix it to get it running before I could drive it), But... I can make it better. During burn outs there is reported wheel hop... I have felt it myself.
P.S. Please excuse spelling mistakes and gramatical ones as well.
I want to drop the car by an inch to give it a bit of a mean stance.. but to do that properly require caster, camber plates.. bump steer kits.etc. etc. Which I am going to do. Also want to put extended studs.. for a small spacer to get a more flush look wheel to body... I know I start messing with my "scrub angle" when I start doing this.. but its a risk I don't mind taking suspension wise. The stock spring rates and stiffer sway bars.. I think would be perfect. I will probably try to get same rate springs as stock with a 1" drop. Lol.. Houston is just a lot of straight roads. No corners... sighs. Autocross and track time it will have to be. Preppy is always welcomed lol.
"Its not the size of the engine that matters... its how much shit you can bolt to it....."

